MSNBC, July 1st, 2023
House speaker spoke the truth about former president Trump, was promptly punished, and then apologized. This dynamic is all out of the authoritarian playbook—the idea that the leader is the supreme being and any sort of dissent is unacceptable. History professor Ruth Ben-Ghiat and American Voices guest host Julián Castro discuss this worrying dynamic and connect it to the failed rebellion in Russia.
Watch the interview here.